NOM’s John Eastman

For those of you who have not been following the National Organization for Marriage v. United States saga, here’s a brief summary. NOM claims that the IRS released their confidential 2008 donors list as part of conspiracy aimed at conservatives. They also claim that the release was part of an Obama conspiracy with HRC and its past CEO, Joe Solmonese, who went on to be a co-chair of the Obama reelection campaign.

NOM also claims that Fred Karger used this donors list to file a complaint with the California Fair Political Practices
Commission which cost them $10,500 to defend. NOM took the opportunity to depose Fred in what amounted to a fishing expedition by NOM’s chairman and attorney, John Eastman.

Responding to the complaint the US attorney admits that the IRS provided a copy of the confidential schedule to someone not associated with the Human Rights Campaign. They go on to say that it was an inadvertent disclosure by an employee who made a mistake (probably got scammed) and that NOM is due, according to law, the sum of $1,000.

Here is Fred Karger’s missive to Brian Brown which I found entertaining:

March 21, 2014

Mr. Brian Brown


National Organization for Marriage

2029 K Street, NW # 300

Washington, DC 20006


Dear Brian:

First, I wanted to let you know that thanks to you I was able to raise a near record amount of money in one week for my Legal Fund, Five for Fred. We met our goal by putting your photo on my fundraising appeal. It was the picture of you not looking too happy as you testified before the Maine Ethics Commission. That coupled with the fact that NOM was responsible for my being subpoenaed and deposed by the U. S. Justice Department, helped to raise enough money to cover our legal bills. Most of our contributions were for $5.00. That’s a far cry from how NOM raises money. Last report nearly 90% of the $16 million you raised came from just 5 donors.

But the main reason for writing you today was to let you know just how poorly served you were at last week’s deposition of me by your star attorney, NOM Chairman, John Eastman.

Mr. Eastman was not as bad as Cleta Mitchell was on last summer’s 51 minute conference call with the Iowa Ethics Board (CLICK HERE FOR AUDIO), but close. When Ms. Mitchell was representing NOM as your attorney in the proceedings, she managed to offend the entire Ethics’ Board and its Executive Director over and over again by questioning their impartiality. Take a listen if you haven’t heard the entire meeting: CLICK HERE

John Eastman Was Just Plain All-around Awful

Your attorney was totally unprepared, wandering, perplexed, seemed confused, disorganized and generally discombobulated. He had trouble finding dozens of exhibits that he kept trying to introduce while continually digging through stacks of papers that were strewn all over the conference table and floor.

At least half of Mr. Eastman’s questions to me during the deposition were way beyond the scope of your lawsuit and were objected to by the defense attorney with the Department of Justice and my attorney.

He was repeatedly asked where he was heading with his line of questioning because it was so far off the mark. He kept saying that we would see, but we clearly never did. Wonder if he was he just wasting everyone’s time to run up his billable hours to NOM with all those oddball questions?

Anyway, the transcript will be available soon and you can see for yourself. Since you were not in Los Angeles for the deposition I thought you’d want to know.

If you are attempting to scare me, Brian like you hoped to five years ago when you tried to subpoena and depose me in a case that I was not a party to either, you are barking up the wrong tree. CLICK HERE

Mr. Eastman was trying to make the point over and over again in the deposition that I did not like NOM and all the hate that you spew. That point was on the mark.

As far as I am concerned you and your NOM are hell-bent on destroying the lives of millions of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people all over the world.

Know that while you undertake all your evil deeds, I will continue to monitor NOM and do everything in my power to make sure that you obey state and federal laws and play by the rules.


Fred Karger


Rights Equal Rights

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By David Cary Hart

Retired CEO. Formerly a W.E. Deming-trained quality-management consultant. Now just a cranky Jewish queer. Gay cis. He/Him/His.